Even if you’re writing about something kind of raw - I try to pan out as much as I can, an have as much of an aerial view. Johanna : Yeah, because you’re always writing with some sort of tunnel vision of your own experience. : I feel like that’s the mark of a good song, actually, when it takes on any sort of resonance, even if it’s different from the the original type of resonance that it had at first. I feel like they mean something totally different now, which is cool. It was scary to jump in and see if that was true, but it weirdly is. : Do they resonate with you still? When I write songs that I haven’t returned to in a while, I just hope that they resonate with me in some way. I’m like, How do these songs go? I should probably figure out how to play them. Johanna : I haven’t been able to listen to this one, recently when it’s been time to play them with a band. : Do you listen to your records when you’re finished with them? It’s also cool because I’m getting ready to record another one right away. And then all of a sudden it was like a year, or a year-and-a-half - four years, five years. ![]() First I felt like I sat on it a little bit because I was just kind of dealing with some personal stuff, and then, yeah, it was supposed to be that spring. : Were you going to put it out in March of 2020 and then decided not to? And then it was suddenly like, Will we ever put it out? Maybe not. I think a number of things kind of happened and it just ended up timing out where, by the time it was time, it was just the beginning of March of that year. ![]() : Did you not put it out for two years because of everything that’s been happening? ![]() But it’s cool, because it’s time to release the butterflies. Johanna Samuels : Yeah, a hot minute ago. It’s really great, I’ve been listening to it this morning. Annie Fell, Editor-in-chief, Talkhouse Music To celebrate both of their new albums - Samuels’s Excelsior!, out today, and Taylor’s Quietly Blowing It, out in June - the two hopped on Zoom to catch up. Taylor is the frontman of the North Carolina-based folk band Hiss Golden Messenger. Johanna Samuels is an LA-based folk singer-songwriter M.C.
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